tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2999125118927001112.post8381998484363047862..comments2023-09-16T05:02:59.946-07:00Comments on Heroines with Hearts: Describing the Black MomentDebra St. Johnhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07154130275058459169noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2999125118927001112.post-81557850918385718602011-02-24T15:45:43.194-08:002011-02-24T15:45:43.194-08:00I really appreciate the information in your folder...I really appreciate the information in your folders, Debra!Ana Morganhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12325215832587691886noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2999125118927001112.post-19973866842740455752011-02-24T08:44:21.847-08:002011-02-24T08:44:21.847-08:00Thanks ladies! One of these days I really need to ...Thanks ladies! One of these days I really need to read through the rest of those folders. There are good things in there!<br /><br />Francine, I think your example of an accident works well as a dark/black moment. Again, because it comes logically out of the characters actions and emotions at the time.Debra St. Johnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07154130275058459169noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2999125118927001112.post-86067202163461312632011-02-24T07:55:29.321-08:002011-02-24T07:55:29.321-08:00Hi Ana,
The accident occurs late in the story - h...Hi Ana,<br /><br />The accident occurs late in the story - his own fault (pilot fatigue) plus emotional stress. <br /><br />Interesting point: intentional! I have to say no at point of accident, but after the event . . . Who knows it might have crossed his mind at a later date, only the hero can express what he's going through and what impact the accident has had on him re his former career. <br /><br />I think a little dark twist never goes amiss in a romance, it can make the characters seem more real and less perfect.<br /><br />best<br />FFrancine Howarthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02326542867876257042noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2999125118927001112.post-14372215015765240312011-02-24T06:46:36.894-08:002011-02-24T06:46:36.894-08:00Your exciting example, Francine, sounds like an in...Your exciting example, Francine, sounds like an intentional accident. When does it occur in your story?Ana Morganhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12325215832587691886noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2999125118927001112.post-62826348914094838592011-02-24T04:57:24.256-08:002011-02-24T04:57:24.256-08:00Hi,
I'm with Paula on the "boxed in"...Hi,<br /><br />I'm with Paula on the "boxed in" and "what a heroine feared most" aspect: both great for creating a logical "black moment".<br /><br />But, I'm gonna stick my neck out on "accidents" as necessarily that of outside influence, because when a character is subject to extreme emotional stress - despair in seeing or feeling agony of love lost to them - it can induce recklessness that wouldn't have otherwise occurred and can result in car/motor bike/horse riding accident etc. <br /><br />As in the case of one of my heroes a plane crash results because he does something reckless that he knows he shouldn't have. Death of a character, admittedly seems a bit of an extreme "black moment", but what follows in this particular novel is not an icky sweet drama driven hospital scenario of tears and forgiveness and HEA. Oh no, it's quite the opposite of no hospital scenes, but he's nonetheless decided to disappear yet not so far that he can't see her on a daily basis. When she discovers he's alive she not only has to fight dirty to win him over, she has to convince him he's the same despite . . .! I can't say what because it will spoil the ending if this novel ever gets published.<br /><br />So I do think accidents have a place as "black moments" but only as a result of emotional overload! Pushing boundaries is good for characters and their creators!<br /><br />best<br />FFrancine Howarthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02326542867876257042noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2999125118927001112.post-15552085596225344452011-02-24T04:15:44.380-08:002011-02-24T04:15:44.380-08:00Fantastic ideas, Debra.Fantastic ideas, Debra.margaret blakehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04994723897446758457noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2999125118927001112.post-28967070688062172882011-02-24T03:25:54.388-08:002011-02-24T03:25:54.388-08:00Ooh, I love that last one - "what your heroin...Ooh, I love that last one - "what your heroine feared most has happened, and the hero did it to her". Definitely worth remembering! Also like the idea of hero and heroine being 'boxd in' and unable to make it work.<br />Thanks for all these ideas, Debra!Paula Martinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10040623635956769807noreply@blogger.com